Personally I'm happy they are concentrating on precision scopes only. There's a plethora of hunting scopes on the market, but very few precision scopes a working man can afford.
In very few cases are a less featured "hunting" scope any different when you break down philosophy of use. things like a 34mm tube gives you better field of view, more generous eye box. These are all things of value in hunting aswell.
Fact of physics. A larger tube DOES NOT give you a better (larger) field of view or brighter image. Only the shape, diameter and quality of the lens and coatings can change that. The large tube diameters common in ELR scopes is ONLY to allow a great deal of elevation and windage correction in the turrets. The larger the tube diameter is.........the more internal room the erector tube can move up and down, which is required to allow large elevation adjustments in the turret. The actual diameter of the focused light image passing through the erector of a riflescope is quite small. Much smaller than the internal tube diameter of even a 1" scope.
Arken is concentrating on the ELR sector because that's what's driving the market right now but I also have discussed the need/want for SFP hunting scopes with them. They said they will be coming at some point in the future and I'm very happy about that because I think they offer a great product for the money. I'd like a 100 yard Fixed Parallax, Second Focal Plane, Four Power Zoom, 4-16x50mm, 30mm tube, low height, non-adjustable turrets with a simple BDC type reticle to use for bullet drop. I don't need adjustable turrets for tremendous distances when hunting. I personally WILL NOT take a shot on un-wounded game past 500 yards and neither should the average hunter because they rarely (if they ever have) practiced target shooting beyond that distance. Responsible hunters have a duty to put their game down quickly with one shot. Hunting at extreme distances allows to many uncontrolled variables into the equation (for the average typical hunter) that can and very often result in lost game that eventually just dies. I've seen it happen more than I care to admit by friends and other hunters I just met. I have personally taken an elk at 652 yards with one shot but I will not do that again. At the time I was very active at 1000 yard shooting and could reliably put a round in the boiler room of a large game animal on a cold bore first shot. Even if someone is an adequate marksman, there too many other factors that the hunter cannot control that can and will affect the outcome. I will not shoot that distance on any animal again and I wish others would consider their ability BEFORE do so. Leave the ELR scopes on precision target rifles and blast steel and paper instead of animals at those distances. Enough of my hunting ethics.
Arken seems to be offering great scopes for the money from what I've seen, read and personally witnessed at their shop and by reviewing my SH4 Gen II 4-16x50. There will ALWAYS be manufacturing problems and some samples will have problems from time to time. 'HOW' Arken responds to and handles those defective samples will contribute to determining their future. From what I've personally seen and heard, those young businessmen are doing a great job and have the right attitude toward product quality and customer service. Bringing a new product to market like a riflescope line is no small task but they are on the right track. They are concentrating on the ELR sector right now because that's what's driving the market at the moment but I'm looking forward to their versions of hunting scopes and binos in the future. I'm wishing the best for these guys.
i focus on sharingmyexperienceandscope with friends, let them see or try the optic to maybe check out Arken not sure they need my help But i mean i tell everyone, gun stores even at the range members look through it and say WOW a few have or tried Arken then move on to nightforce ect, we have scope snobs their too i mean they bring 10k worth of tools and cant hit shit. the ATACR - 1-8x24mm F1 weighs 21 oz and its a 34mm 1-8, maybe Arken could some day offer a 1-6 / 1-8 scope i would buy one,
Peace. dont sweat the petty stuff, pet the sweaty stuff
I wish they could pull off a scope like the 3-15x Vortex LHT or Leupold VX-5 HD. Both of those scopes are nice and light weight and offer great versatility for distances. You can hunt with those scopes in the woods (3x FOV) or take them to the range to 500 yards (Best I got in my area). I am eyeing both of those scopes to replace a Diamondback 4-16x. The Arken 4-16x sounds like quality and the price is right... but is it worth carrying that extra pound on the hunting rifle. I just might try it. But, 4x magnification is a bit much in the woods. I'd love to see a 3-15x hunting/ tactical scope. Many dudes just have one bolt gun... a scope that can do it all would sell!
@Gary Marchlewicz I’m not trying to take anything away from Arken, I love both of my scopes from them. Take a look at the Riton x5 Primal or x3 Conqueror, both are 30mm main tubes & use Japanese glass.
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Personally I'm happy they are concentrating on precision scopes only. There's a plethora of hunting scopes on the market, but very few precision scopes a working man can afford.
Ole gentle Ben, talking trash!
Wasn't meant to be offensive just stating my opinion.
In very few cases are a less featured "hunting" scope any different when you break down philosophy of use. things like a 34mm tube gives you better field of view, more generous eye box. These are all things of value in hunting aswell.
Fact of physics. A larger tube DOES NOT give you a better (larger) field of view or brighter image. Only the shape, diameter and quality of the lens and coatings can change that. The large tube diameters common in ELR scopes is ONLY to allow a great deal of elevation and windage correction in the turrets. The larger the tube diameter is.........the more internal room the erector tube can move up and down, which is required to allow large elevation adjustments in the turret. The actual diameter of the focused light image passing through the erector of a riflescope is quite small. Much smaller than the internal tube diameter of even a 1" scope.
Arken is concentrating on the ELR sector because that's what's driving the market right now but I also have discussed the need/want for SFP hunting scopes with them. They said they will be coming at some point in the future and I'm very happy about that because I think they offer a great product for the money. I'd like a 100 yard Fixed Parallax, Second Focal Plane, Four Power Zoom, 4-16x50mm, 30mm tube, low height, non-adjustable turrets with a simple BDC type reticle to use for bullet drop. I don't need adjustable turrets for tremendous distances when hunting. I personally WILL NOT take a shot on un-wounded game past 500 yards and neither should the average hunter because they rarely (if they ever have) practiced target shooting beyond that distance. Responsible hunters have a duty to put their game down quickly with one shot. Hunting at extreme distances allows to many uncontrolled variables into the equation (for the average typical hunter) that can and very often result in lost game that eventually just dies. I've seen it happen more than I care to admit by friends and other hunters I just met. I have personally taken an elk at 652 yards with one shot but I will not do that again. At the time I was very active at 1000 yard shooting and could reliably put a round in the boiler room of a large game animal on a cold bore first shot. Even if someone is an adequate marksman, there too many other factors that the hunter cannot control that can and will affect the outcome. I will not shoot that distance on any animal again and I wish others would consider their ability BEFORE do so. Leave the ELR scopes on precision target rifles and blast steel and paper instead of animals at those distances. Enough of my hunting ethics.
Arken seems to be offering great scopes for the money from what I've seen, read and personally witnessed at their shop and by reviewing my SH4 Gen II 4-16x50. There will ALWAYS be manufacturing problems and some samples will have problems from time to time. 'HOW' Arken responds to and handles those defective samples will contribute to determining their future. From what I've personally seen and heard, those young businessmen are doing a great job and have the right attitude toward product quality and customer service. Bringing a new product to market like a riflescope line is no small task but they are on the right track. They are concentrating on the ELR sector right now because that's what's driving the market at the moment but I'm looking forward to their versions of hunting scopes and binos in the future. I'm wishing the best for these guys.
Only issues is the weight.
@jeremyd2010 come on now granddad carried a BAR across Europe giving the Germans what for... lol
Got a tikka superlight for the pops. Might get an SWFA Ultralight. Waned something light for him, tough guy.
@jeremyd2010 that is a great choice of a rifle tikka's are awsome!!
i focus on sharing my experience and scope with friends, let them see or try the optic to maybe check out Arken not sure they need my help But i mean i tell everyone, gun stores even at the range members look through it and say WOW a few have or tried Arken then move on to nightforce ect, we have scope snobs their too i mean they bring 10k worth of tools and cant hit shit. the ATACR - 1-8x24mm F1 weighs 21 oz and its a 34mm 1-8, maybe Arken could some day offer a 1-6 / 1-8 scope i would buy one,
Peace. dont sweat the petty stuff, pet the sweaty stuff
I would like a lighter 1-6 or 1-8 for an AR that would be awsome and I'm sure it would sell great too!
I have been hoping for the same thing. However, I believe it will be a while before it happens.
I wish they could pull off a scope like the 3-15x Vortex LHT or Leupold VX-5 HD. Both of those scopes are nice and light weight and offer great versatility for distances. You can hunt with those scopes in the woods (3x FOV) or take them to the range to 500 yards (Best I got in my area). I am eyeing both of those scopes to replace a Diamondback 4-16x. The Arken 4-16x sounds like quality and the price is right... but is it worth carrying that extra pound on the hunting rifle. I just might try it. But, 4x magnification is a bit much in the woods. I'd love to see a 3-15x hunting/ tactical scope. Many dudes just have one bolt gun... a scope that can do it all would sell!
@Gary Marchlewicz I’m not trying to take anything away from Arken, I love both of my scopes from them. Take a look at the Riton x5 Primal or x3 Conqueror, both are 30mm main tubes & use Japanese glass.